confinement and rope jump boringness is making me more and more willing to buy one – but everything is out of stock in France :(. Random overheats during races. We need more of these devices and more reviews of what is possible without breaking the piggy bank. This goes against everything I’ve ever read (as you mention, but I still find it hard to believe). At max…about a dozen. You get what you paid for. Then I shifted a bit for the 2nd highlighted section below, and it went a bit askew. Flow Smart. My guess it they bought a few hundred thousand boxes a few years back since this one doesn’t have the “Tacx – A Garmin Company” bit on it like other new Tacx boxes. Otherwise it's rather stable, but I don't recommend stretching your back from side to side as you will fall over (believe me, I have been there). took a picture or gave a ride on. Might even make it up the stairs to the main studio this week! when pushing hard or more than 30minutes the trainer stops to sync with the pc and your avatar/training stops. In this case, prior to the forum users raising the issue, Tacx would not even acknowledge there was a problem which at the time effected every iMagic/Fortius customer in the US. And its wheel-on design allows for easy setup and storage. The popular training/virtual platforms all seem to have a power-match function. I simply love this Tacx and have been using it for almost 3 years. This is a super basic trainer mat, which is exactly what you'll see me use. Ending Wednesday at 1:18PM PST 3d 1h. Easy setup Accurate power Well-built Portable/storable Budget-friendly. Once we’ve picked an app and paired it up, we’ll start pedaling. Oh, they manufacture it. For the price of a single Tacx Neo I’ve got a studio of eight smart turbos, a mini PC and a licence for PerfPro Studio, with some change to spare. It’s a disaster. Great for beginners, was initially very quiet but some noise has developed after about a year of use. Are you going to ever do a review on the Elite Tuo? This Tacx Flow Smart trainer can simulate inclines and replicate a mass inertial effect of 26 lbs. 4.0 out of 5 star rating. The big thing that I was impressed by is the cadence discovery. I’ve been trying to calibrate it but I can’t seem to reach 30 kph. it was the first time on a trainer and i had really funny moments on zwift with my friends. 2) Max power is 800 watts (though I don't think I've even touched power that high, never mind a sustained effort at that pace). It even connects to your favorite apps, such as Zwift, Tacx, and TrainerRoad. Perfect trainer to begin having fun when it rains from luca.dona.91 September 9, 2020 bought before the covid's lockdown. $295.00. Least expensive true smart trainer from Dominik September 29, 2020 The TACX FLOW SMART is the least expensive true smart trainer in most countries. Solid Beginner Trainer from Squintroscopist September 24, 2020 Great for beginners, was initially very quiet but some noise has developed after about a year of use. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. Yet, here’s the cadence from that TrainerRoad ride, which all but the mis-shift, it tracked perfectly fine. Wheel on trainers typically over-report power when users perform calibrations before the tire/roller interface has sufficiently warmed up. Good to see a review of one of the cheaper “Smart” trainers on the market. However I do have to admit I’m running into the max wattages it can hold and the climbing in Zwift – I want it to be real so Trainer difficulty on 100%! Good one to start as a light rider from Jose September 24, 2020 You get what you paid for. Note that the Tacx Flow doesn’t natively support ‘power match’ to a power meter on your bike, in the trainer itself like some other trainers do. : link to thingiverse.com. only problem is overheating. Between all these standards you can basically connect to anything and everything you’d ever want to. I assume it has something to do with the inertia of the wheel. Nope, not at all. I assumed that it was simply losing Bluetooth signal whilst this was happening, but further research in the forums showed that overheating was an issue with this model. NEO owners: we highly recommend following the firmware update rules from TacxFaqs.com, to avoid bricking your trainer. Over-heating when riding steep long climbs (high resistance and low cadence). Most trainers in the $500-$800 range can simulate up to about 16% or so. And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. I realized pretty quickly that 6 degrees are not close to enough to truly enjoy the reality of climbing Mont du Zwift and many other climbs available. Secondly you are wrong when you say there is nothing to say which way to turn the adjustment knob if a calibration test shows you have it too tight or to loose. Great product at a great price! Features. Tacx Bike Support for Rollers . Why haven’t you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? Look, I was expecting bad things from this trainer, but frankly it didn’t feel that bad relative to my expectations. Thank you so much for a great review. But for the money a European model, black Friday deal, free shipping to US, and $317 in 2015, $10 for C7 15 foot power cable, it was well worth the money. Do you know why they have two trainers that are so similar? It is light & portable (a bonus for apartment living) plus i can adjust it for QR rear wheels and also thru-axle (using Robert Axle Project hardwear). In theory it shouldn’t work, since both support the BLE power spec. Here’s a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that I’ve put together and posted. remember to buy the correct adaptor from tacx if you have a thru axle bike. Halfords were excellent and replaced it with no issue though. as a heavier person (100-105kg) I found out that it’s not really suited for me. It will look good in any room. I quickly found a small fan to cool down the device and I still use it this way now anytime I train. Or would the better option be to pick up some kind of external power meter that can transmit to laptop?  Looking for the equipment I use day to day? Tacx Trainers. But it also doesn’t feel like pedaling through mud – which I’ve seen on trainers more expensive than this one. While in ERG mode if you are training above 250 watts for a prolonged period of time the trainer may go into an overheating protection mode. For that here’s a comparison between a Quarq DZero power meter, Favero Assioma pedals, and PowerTap G3 (data set here): And ironically, it seems to hit that 5% bit almost spot-on. Not the most accurate power with the wheel-on setup offcourse but for the money spent it does what it needs to do! Thanks for this review – it honestly put my mind at ease. Yeah, for me and doing testing, I feel like I have to be perfectly on-point center – otherwise folks will get all bent out of shape. So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, I’ve complied this “My Photography Gear” post for your curious minds! By this I mean the bike could easily and quickly be put on the trainer or quickly taken off. This trainer is the perfect winter training tool.. Also it's light o move around if you don' have a dedicated paincave like the pro's. Maximum power: 3,600 … Easy setup Well-built Portable/storable Budget-friendly. – Wahoo production to my knowledge is normal, but was also slowed earlier. (yellow line).  Here’s the levels being sent (the blue blocks) by TrainerRoad and how quickly the Tacx Flow Smart responded to it: Now as outlined earlier in the post, baseline responsiveness is solid and 100% acceptable for this price point. The major downside of it is that it is noisy. However, this is where there’s a difference between real and virtual wheel-speed. Flow ri duh from neil.glessner August 27, 2020 It's a smart trainer for cheap. I have a question. This is how I know your reviews are great. I bought my Tacx Smart Flow second-hand on Facebook for £110 (when new ones were selling for £160) and I don't think there's a cheaper way to get on Zwift with a two-way trainer. If you are looking for a good value budget smart trainer, this is a good choice. In this battle of blue and red, the Tacx Flow Smart wins by allowing both Bluetooth LE and Ant+ connection. Although this seems to have gone a bit quiet of late. Train with Confidence Back Order. I am however starting to see a lot of it’s limiting factors the main one for me that I am not sure you touched on here was how it adjusts from a steep gradient to a flat or a decline. In addition, several users have also reported that this trainer is breaking down due to bearings that have gone in the flywheel. 1 review Average Rating:5 . Also, since you’re here, now’s a good time to update the firmware on the trainer: To do a calibration, you’ll press the calibrate button and then pedal your bike up to 18.6 mph. Though, it might be to a lot of people. I am 85kg with a Snap. And being awesome is what it’s all about! 1) It only simulates gradients up to 6% (after which, Zwift compensates at it would a standard turbo trainer). That’s the real-world wheel-speed as reported by the PowerTap G3 hub wheelset. On average it takes me 4-6. The nice thing about it is that I didn't need to shift so much but I realise that is not REALLY an advantage but rather a false advantage. Definitely not for precision warriors, but a good enough starter kit, Perfect for beginners from nathan September 24, 2020 The Tacx Flow Smart trainer is a great wheel-on trainer for beginners of indoor training. The Vortex has 1% more incline and a little more max power but other than that I don’t see too many differences? I have the version including a ANT+ dongle and use the trainer with a PC Windows 10 and Companion app (Android). Easy setup Portable/storable Quiet Budget-friendly. The rundown on the Tacx Flow Smart Trainer - The cheapest interactive smart trainer available today. At the time I suspected that the cadence drop outs occurred when I interacted with the companion app. After warranty support wasn't great, but not terrible either. Great value trainer. Three things I would recommend in starting to use this trainer - 1) If setting up on a carpeted floor, put down a worthless rug and raise the two front props up a half inch to insure ground clearance (I used two thin books of equal thickness), 2) Place a strong fan directly behind the trainer to help cool the unit on harder, longer uphill sections where resistance will increase, and 3) Keep your rear tire at or below 65-75PSI because the resistance roller can tend to apply too much pressure if you are used to airing up at 80PSA+. And ultimately it’s perfectly fine for the money. and used some beta firmware from tacx but all the problems were exactly the same. Only downside I’ve found is it seems to overheat when ridden hard in higher ambient temperatures. They connect wirelessly to most popular training apps like Zwift, TrainerRoad and the Tacx software. And while I had played with one a number of years back, I never had a chance to really dig into it. Bluetooth Smart Speed/Cadence Profile: This broadcasts your speed and cadence as a standard BLE combo Speed/Cadence sensor (as usual) I use mine with a left side 4iiii powermeter and cadence sensor. Give it two turns the other way and try again. Many of the weaknesses Ray points out are of no concern to me – I’m a flyweight (60 kg) old man with an FTP of OTOO 200 W. So the gradient and max W limitations are really no problem. I can attest to Ray’s positive review! Any idea if this is a standard thread? $54.99. The 800W is enough for my "low-watt-legs" but for a stronger rider I recommend a better trainer. It connects to most popular training apps like Zwift Tacx and Trainerroad. No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! The 800W is enough for my "low-watt-legs" but for a stronger rider I recommend a better trainer. REALLY appreciate the review as you explained how to calibrate the unit. Train Your Way Flow Smart harnesses the innovative power of Tacx indoor training software. It works, it's not accurate, it requires a wheel, it's loud. Easy setup Well-built Quiet Budget-friendly. In the case of simulation (aka slope) mode, the Tacx Flow Smart can simulate from 0% to 6% incline – which is on the lower end range of smart trainers. At the end of the day, I’m an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase – so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. This ensures that your front wheel is effectively level with the back of the trainer (since it lifts up your bike a bit). It will need some sort of app to control it. Zwfit and Tacx apps do recognize the trainer but do not recognize that I am pedaling at all. I also use one for my own riding with Zwift and TrainerRoad, and more recently For playing around with Road Grand Tours (all via ANT+ not Bluetooth). Note that I never saw this drop-out again. The Tacx Flow Smart Trainer is an interactive smart trainer that provides accurate and consistent speed, power and cadence measurements. Click above for all the details. Well, this is how. I honestly don’t care that much about power accuracy in an entry level, wheel-on trainer, as I have a Powertap hub on the bike. But Tacx is actually still making this trainer model (I confirmed), and in fact you’ll see a shipment arrive in US stores this week. Never a problem with cadence. Provided you maintain the same tyre pressure you won't find that you need to calibrate frequently. Turbo Trainers & Rollers Putting in training miles on a turbo trainer or rollers is becoming increasingly popular with pro and amateur riders alike. for precise workouts every time. You certainly don’t feel it though. I did have a pair of Garmin V3 for a while (got rid of them), but when they worked, the Tacx was a few percent higher than the V3. Would strongly recommend. Cheap, but needed maintenance from JeroenZ September 8, 2020 All the features to be able to use Zwift (and other platforms) for a relatively low price. Now, if we look at the three intervals here you’ll see #1 was way below target (like, 200w). But on the packaging is reported <10% accuracy, while on Tacx site is reported 5% accuracy. It just can’t make the adjustments but I accept that for the current price point. Further, at the 13/15/17 minute combos the iPad running Kinomap and the Tacx Flow smart decided to follow the Quarq/BOLT lead and take a vacation also. But again, for large middle sections here, it’s well within spec: Cadence however…well…that’s just a dumpster fire: Friends don’t let friends use the Tacx Flow Smart cadence reading. Apart from this, it's a solid trainer for its price and delivers. I own one for more than a year and it has been stable. Spinning was my indoor thing until quarantine… (I’m in the cyclist camp of “biking outside presents a small risk of requiring medical resources” … I’m staying in for my Nurse and Doctor pals)… THIS seemed like the perfect “Quarantine Trainer”. Smart Trainers Buyers Guide: Looking at a smart trainer this winter? The reviews generally take a lot of hours to put together, so it’s a fair bit of work (and labor of love). One of the most popular trainer fans out there, rivaling the Wahoo Headwind fan in strength but at a fraction of the price. I had an iMagic for almost 15 years, pretty much the same load unit (but with USB interface rather than ANT+/BLE), an older version of the frame. I agree that the cadence is totally off. I can recommend the Vittoria Zaffiro Pro Home Trainer Tire. At first I had a creaking sound. After #3, recovery is still too high. As you probably noticed by looking below, I also take time to answer all the questions posted in the comments – and there’s quite a bit of detail in there as well. Great value for money for a beginner trainer. Yup, I agree. Thanks. It doesn’t mean you won’t have a good time on Zwift, or suffering on TrainerRoad or whatever other app you want. Bottom line - this is one of the cheapest smart trainers on the market and it seems to be everything I need. Including both a manual as well as a free month of service to the Tacx Training App. This is contrary to how virtually every other smart trainer works. I heard that something was upgraded by Tacx (differrent roller material) Is the power measured accurately? Most people that can hit 800w will know it. The problem is that the Tacx utility app won’t tell you which way to turn it when you’ve got it really far out of alignment. would love to have something in this price point when weather is not cooperating. Eventually I had to replace the bolt from a fabricator. It is also easier to carry by using the Tacx Skyliner front wheel support. If you're shopping for the Tacx Flow Smart or any other accessory items, please consider using the affiliate links below! But for the Tacx Flow it’ll likely be better for most people to use the bigger chainring. Yeah, I just use one skewer, the trainer one, that’s it. 1) The tightening knob sucks not only in terms of function, but also durability. The Tacx Flow Smart Trainer is one of the most highly recommended low-budget trainers with hi-tech features.

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